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Post by misterbrow on Jan 13, 2016 18:36:07 GMT -5
I hereby surrender my mayorship to guymandude. I am sure the rest of my staff will support him.
My trio has only missed ten nights total in the entire run between us. We are looking elsewhere for our yearly reunion. I will miss all of you and miss the mountain and miss being a part of something once so special.
The value for the money is absent. Sick of the taking.
The expansion of VIP into the VIP Village is sickening. We once had an Awareness Village with booths for things such as promoting organ donating.
The line up is disappointing. MULE went back to bringing it the last two years, but, it is MJ and that should be a given. CRB is good but they just played here and a much longer show. Just saw Lettuce and UM. Called Isbell as a headliner. He'll only get 45 minutes though. His music against the Catskills will be beautiful. If it was two days with full sets from just those... two nights of MULE. We'd be there.
Franti will be Franti as will Clark. Don't care for Beck or the Avetts. Tweedy turned in one of the most disappointing sets in MJ history. Really nothing in the line up worth the time and money.
And... with all of the police and security issues in the past. Putting mushrooms and a pot leaf on the poster is just immature and stupid.
Hopefully I will see y'all in 500+ days.
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Post by ferret on Jan 13, 2016 23:07:56 GMT -5
This line-up leaves a LOT to be desired! Therefore We are looking toward Peach Festival at nearly 1/2 the price and MANY more local Hotel options. We already booked a room just in case We end up going.
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Post by raspberryjam on Jan 14, 2016 7:19:50 GMT -5
That is unfortunate that you aren't giving Beck and Wilco a chance. I will agree that Tweedy gave a disappointing show 2 years ago. Wilco is a whole different bird and Beck is mesmerizing live. I can promise you wouldn't be sorry you went. Even my jammy loving friends who hate anything new conceded that Wilco put on a show right up there with the best jam bands. Not that Wilco is new!
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Post by guymandude on Jan 14, 2016 8:36:48 GMT -5
MBrow will always be the mayor.
I see his absence this year as just taking a breather, the air on the Mountain is awesome but a different perspective and breeze from another direction is not a bad thing.
We will miss your amazing insight and knowledge regarding the music on the Mountain, but only this year. I'm sure you and your mates will consider a return next year.
Just because your not attending this year doesn't mean your banished from the forum, I'm confident we will see your witty repartee here and keep us updated as to which festival your considering. There is strength in numbers and I know I'll be interested in attending at least one musical event with you in 2016.
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Post by ferret on Jan 14, 2016 16:48:06 GMT -5
Saw Beck and liked him at Vegoose. Always LOVED Uncle Tupelo and followed Wilco for a while after the split but Son Volt and Jay Farrar are,to me,the better half of what came after. Saw Jeff Tweedy at MJ but it was uninspiring. As for the Avett Bros. I have zero interest in them.
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Post by TE on Jan 15, 2016 9:12:14 GMT -5
Agree with Guy, MBROW will always be the mayor of MJ. Sorry you will not be attending, hope you reconsider. Although checking out other festivals can never be a bad thing! But perhaps…something will change and we get to see you on the mountain!
I am so pschyed to get back, only my 3rd MJ but love all the people I have met and the experience of it all.
Something about the mountain air and days filled with music and amazing people.
As far as line-up is concerned
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Pros:
Beck, I haven’t followed him in some time but an extremely talented, creative& diverse musician. I can see how his , rock, bluesy, soulful music landed him as a headliner.
I have heard very good things.
Gary Clarke - Hell Yeah! I am so psyched to see!! Saw him last year in a small venue in the city, I know he has done many festivals including MJ and I cant wait to see what he does
Franti will be Franti…and for me that is a good thing! I get my yearly fix, he makes me happy.
Warren & Gov’t Mule…no need to say, it’s the real reason I love this festival. Warren in any form is awesome!!
Umphrey’s & Lettuce –
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Cons:
VIP Village – Def not where I would spend my $
Wish Pretty lights & Tedeschi Trucks would have returned.
No real new “wow” headliner. One more could have changed the minds of many that are disappointed. Don’t know why I really thought Santana would be on the list, Warren Haynes vibe that can jam with anyone. And Neil Young would have just changed the game of the festival. Who knows is there a chance? Will others be added? My Morning Jacket...String Cheese......Widespread..Just needs a little more. in my opinion
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Post by ohwell on Jan 15, 2016 10:16:56 GMT -5
if someone believes in legalizing it, then a leaf is righteous. i don't care so much but i do believe in freedom. with all the focus on substances at festivals, the least one could do is represent in a minor way. who isn't for freeing natural plants? norml does their festivals without much trouble. at bonnaroo years ago security was checking backpacks more than usual. a few times i felt targeted (after mountain jam where i also felt somewhat targeted), and when someone was having theirs checked, i said we kind of agreed to it by buying the ticket, because in the rules they always say no illegal substances and they reserve the right to check bags. everyone knows what happens in festivals. many years ago at an allman brothers concert the psychedelic screens behind the stage promoted mushrooms the whole time. it was very obvious. the wanee festival usually has a mushroom motif in the design. it is also kind of annoying that festival money doesn't seem to go to legalizing efforts. organ donating? seems most people decide on that when getting a drivers license. that's a weird issue. but if you don't like the bands or the product that they are serving, then its actually quite intelligent to not go. the peach fest looks good. i'd like to hear about the waterpark and the weather. mountain jam is always too freaking cold.
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Post by thestonedape on Jan 15, 2016 18:03:46 GMT -5
Has no one else noticed the little snippet of Dead and Co at the end of the lineup announcement video? It literally only flashes the image but it's there and why would they put that there unless they're going to play. They're seriously lacking ANY type of Dead esque band and like a lot of people are saying, the headliners seem to fall a bit flat this year (though i thought that it did last year too). It's rumored that Dead and Co is also headlining 'roo the weekend after Mtn Jam. I feel like either A) There's some sort of scheduling conflict for them announcing dead and co yet, or B) They're holding onto them as a secret headliner for some unknown reason (perhaps as a late game ticket seller) which they did with the Allman Bros back in 2014 (though I forget if they were really a 'secret' headliner. That's just my gut feeling and take it with a grain of salt, but again, why would they have a snippet of a Dead n Co show in their video if they weren't playing the fest...
Also, turkquaz is well worth checking out
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Post by guymandude on Jan 15, 2016 18:35:22 GMT -5
TheStonedApe Do you mean this screenshot image I captured at about 1:34 into the video?  Wow, if this is true, Great catch..... |
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Post by CryMeAPotRiver on Jan 15, 2016 20:44:14 GMT -5
if someone believes in legalizing it, then a leaf is righteous. i don't care so much but i do believe in freedom. with all the focus on substances at festivals, the least one could do is represent in a minor way. who isn't for freeing natural plants? norml does their festivals without much trouble. at bonnaroo years ago security was checking backpacks more than usual. a few times i felt targeted (after mountain jam where i also felt somewhat targeted), and when someone was having theirs checked, i said we kind of agreed to it by buying the ticket, because in the rules they always say no illegal substances and they reserve the right to check bags. everyone knows what happens in festivals. many years ago at an allman brothers concert the psychedelic screens behind the stage promoted mushrooms the whole time. it was very obvious. the wanee festival usually has a mushroom motif in the design. it is also kind of annoying that festival money doesn't seem to go to legalizing efforts. organ donating? seems most people decide on that when getting a drivers license. that's a weird issue. but if you don't like the bands or the product that they are serving, then its actually quite intelligent to not go. the peach fest looks good. i'd like to hear about the waterpark and the weather. mountain jam is always too freaking cold. Why do potheads feel so entitled to break the law? If I made the argument that I could run stop signs and not harm anybody and get to work earlier so there's no reason for for it to be illegal does that make my actions righteous? If I like looking a kiddie porn and say "I'm not hurting anybody, I just like to look at the pictures in the privacy of my own home" is that OK? Why is breaking the law for drugs so OK? Why should a concert festival donate money to make a crime legal? I smoked pot in college...as a stupid kid. I also speed. I also drive after a couple beers at a bar. I also J-walk when there's no traffic. I roll through stop signs. I do all these things knowing they're against the law and will own up to any of them if I get in trouble...why do potheads think they're entitled to break the law!?!?!? Now I remember why I avoid these boards and sign on with a generic account. |
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Post by Jead on Jan 16, 2016 3:06:40 GMT -5
if someone believes in legalizing it, then a leaf is righteous. i don't care so much but i do believe in freedom. with all the focus on substances at festivals, the least one could do is represent in a minor way. who isn't for freeing natural plants? norml does their festivals without much trouble. at bonnaroo years ago security was checking backpacks more than usual. a few times i felt targeted (after mountain jam where i also felt somewhat targeted), and when someone was having theirs checked, i said we kind of agreed to it by buying the ticket, because in the rules they always say no illegal substances and they reserve the right to check bags. everyone knows what happens in festivals. many years ago at an allman brothers concert the psychedelic screens behind the stage promoted mushrooms the whole time. it was very obvious. the wanee festival usually has a mushroom motif in the design. it is also kind of annoying that festival money doesn't seem to go to legalizing efforts. organ donating? seems most people decide on that when getting a drivers license. that's a weird issue. but if you don't like the bands or the product that they are serving, then its actually quite intelligent to not go. the peach fest looks good. i'd like to hear about the waterpark and the weather. mountain jam is always too freaking cold. Why do potheads feel so entitled to break the law? If I made the argument that I could run stop signs and not harm anybody and get to work earlier so there's no reason for for it to be illegal does that make my actions righteous? If I like looking a kiddie porn and say "I'm not hurting anybody, I just like to look at the pictures in the privacy of my own home" is that OK? Why is breaking the law for drugs so OK? Why should a concert festival donate money to make a crime legal? I smoked pot in college...as a stupid kid. I also speed. I also drive after a couple beers at a bar. I also J-walk when there's no traffic. I roll through stop signs. I do all these things knowing they're against the law and will own up to any of them if I get in trouble...why do potheads think they're entitled to break the law!?!?!? Now I remember why I avoid these boards and sign on with a generic account. Fine - Go generic. Seems you missed the point completely about what ohwell was saying there. Nobody said anything about being entitled. |
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Post by misterbrow on Jan 16, 2016 8:29:16 GMT -5
Mr Brow believes the emperor wears no clothes.
The point was there have been issues with security in the past. Even in places where pot is legal you still can't flaunt it. Being as close to Woodstock as you can get and with Jam Bands MJ has the stereotype as do ABB and DEAD shows people assume there will be 15,000 pot heads enacting "Reefer Madness". On the projection screen is way different than on the advertisements.
It's like the year they were selling pipes and then confiscating them 15 feet away.
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Post by thestonedape on Jan 16, 2016 10:00:22 GMT -5
TheStonedApe Do you mean this screenshot image I captured at about 1:34 into the video? Wow, if this is true, Great catch..... yep that's the one... and i agree about the pot leaf thing. obviously it'll be there but why advertise it like that when it already has a reputation for being somewhat of a police state in past years |
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Post by thestonedape on Jan 18, 2016 13:06:56 GMT -5
The mountain jam FB page just responded to another post on their wall about dead n co being on the lineup since they show them in the lineup video - they said that they will not be there this year which raises the question of why they would bother advertising a band that was never going to be there...that shit pisses me off
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egmatic1
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Post by egmatic1 on Jan 20, 2016 14:02:01 GMT -5
It's interesting about Dead & Co. They just announced Bonnaroo. Maybe MJ was holding out for them and that 's why they snuck a snippet into the video.
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